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I am trying to find details about the effects of darkness/blindness, but the only information I can find is that your Movement Rate is halved when moving in complete darkness.
Does darkness/blindness just give you -3 penalty to all tests that rely on sight or are there additional penalties like being unable to dodge or attack anything beyond certain range?

Hullo, Kaeam,

I was somewhat surprised to find that there were no rules on fighting blind or in darkness in the game rules, to be honest.  Basically, a -3 penalty to all tests would be my solution as well as the 1/2 Movement Rate, but I also think that other modifiers, depending on what the characters or NPCs are trying to do would be appropriate as well.  I would certainly say the modifier for the dodge would be at least a -3, and that you can't dodge ranged attacks at all (though cover, if you can get it properly might help).

Ymmv, of course.

I'd look to Mutant, those games have some rules for this.

Although you -3 and 1/2 movement isn't a bad solution either.

I'd look to Mutant, those games have some rules for this.

Although you -3 and 1/2 movement isn't a bad solution either.

Hullo, Jegergryte,
Since I don't have Mutant: Year Zero, how about posting the rules from there about this here?

Quickly adapted to Coriolis:

With no light sources or gear that allows visuals in darkness the following would apply:

1. You have to make a Dexterity check (Move in MY0) to move around.
2. If you fail any check while in darkness you take one strain or stress, whatever its called; you lose one mind point basically. The darkness is scary as fuck.
3. You can only attack someone within Close range, and only after a successful Observation check (this Observation check does not count as an action in MY0 i.e 0 AP, although you could easily demand 2 AP for it in Coriolis so no deliberate (or normal) attack can be made in total darkness, unless they have the custom talent: Blind-fighter which makes this Observation check a 1 or 0 AP, and perhaps allows ranged attacks in total darkness up to short range...)

Hmm, having to make a successful Observation test to locate your enemy with your other senses is pretty good idea. Achieving a critical success could even negate some of the blindness penalty as you manage to pinpoint your enemy's location. 
I would keep the Observation test as a free action with the option to spend AP on it to gain a bonus to the roll.

That's fair enough. Not a bad idea.

Quickly adapted to Coriolis:

With no light sources or gear that allows visuals in darkness the following would apply:

1. You have to make a Dexterity check (Move in MY0) to move around.
2. If you fail any check while in darkness you take one strain or stress, whatever its called; you lose one mind point basically. The darkness is scary as fuck.
3. You can only attack someone within Close range, and only after a successful Observation check (this Observation check does not count as an action in MY0 i.e 0 AP, although you could easily demand 2 AP for it in Coriolis so no deliberate (or normal) attack can be made in total darkness, unless they have the custom talent: Blind-fighter which makes this Observation check a 1 or 0 AP, and perhaps allows ranged attacks in total darkness up to short range...)

Hullo, Jegergryte,
Thanks for taking the time to post this.
I like Kaeam's idea on keeping the Observation test as a free action.

Yeah, me too.

Just throwing ideas around