Page 5 of 12

Re: Alien: Earth and the rpg (Minor Spoilers for Ep1 & 2)

Posted: Thu 28 Aug 2025, 18:51
by MutantFromMars
Have to be honest, that eyeball-octopus thing is the stuff of nightmares, it creeps me out more than the human-alien thing at the end of Romulus :lol:
I don't even want to give it stats...

Still think Wendy is "hearing" the aliens because her hearing is ratcheted up beyond the human range. Curly can't hear anything because hers is set to "normal mode".

Also, can one of the friendly Moderators change the topic title to "Spoilers for the series" or something, since we're way past ep1 and 2, and while trying to avoid major spoilers, we're going to spill something.... (I couldn't see a way to edit it myself) -- thanks

Re: Alien: Earth and the rpg (Minor Spoilers for Ep1 & 2)

Posted: Thu 28 Aug 2025, 19:49
by Fenhorn
<>
Also, can one of the friendly Moderators change the topic title to "Spoilers for the series" or something, since we're way past ep1 and 2, and while trying to avoid major spoilers, we're going to spill something.... (I couldn't see a way to edit it myself) -- thanks
Done

Re: Alien: Earth and the rpg (Spoilers for the series)

Posted: Thu 28 Aug 2025, 21:53
by Boneguard
Finally caught up and so far managed to avoid spoilers (Yeah Me!)

First I agree that the serie feels different. It's not the existential horror of the franchise... well ok the eye-squid and the leech yes to a certain extend but the xenomorph less so. At the same time I do enjoy it, yeah it breaks some of the established canon, but there's a few thing I can see myself still for my own universe.

Re: Alien: Earth and the rpg (Minor Spoilers for Ep1 & 2)

Posted: Fri 29 Aug 2025, 02:01
by MutantFromMars
Done
Thank you

Re: Alien: Earth and the rpg (Minor Spoilers for Ep1 & 2)

Posted: Fri 29 Aug 2025, 02:26
by _ArthurDallas_
That Alien: Earth is written as an analogy to Peter Pan, both in its text and subtext, is hardly a worthy criticism, IMHO. Sure, one might be of the opinion that analogous writing is not to one’s liking – that is quite fair and valid – but attacking writers for using that approach is, I would say, not valid. It is a very common writing tool & story-telling shorthand, and quite popular.

Analogous writing worked well for Se7en (Dante’s Inferno), the very overt WWII French Resistance in Andor s2, The Lion King (Hamlet), just to name a couple. Personally, I find the analogous writing in Alien: Earth very sharp, and it is interesting to follow the writers’ machinations, so to speak.

One thing that interest me greatly in A:E – in addition to the fascinating characters and story arcs – is the fact that for the most part, I have no idea where all this is heading. I mean, it is pretty obvious that the rather peripheral Weyland-Yutani company is going to end up with all of Prodigy’s xeno research, (presumably through Morrow), which will prompt W-Y to redirect Nostromo’s course towards LV-426, tail-ending A:E straight into A. But other than that post-endgame destination, I have no idea how things are going to unfold going forward, and that is pretty cool.

Are there elements of the show worthy of criticism? Sure. For one, the pacing is a little weird (=high drama/action, followed by momentum-crushing dialogue scenes), and there is a LOT of stuff going on in every scene/sequence/shooting location (=somewhat distracting) but to be fair, that is a staple of Ridley Scott film-making, so a staple of the franchise. Moreover, I would have preferred if they hid the creatures and effects in smoke and darkness more, but apparently that is not allowed in the Alien franchise nowadays (=same problem in Alien: Romulus).

But largely, this show is pretty dang fine.

Shout-out to the acting (the people criticizing this show’s acting might have to check their medication), and the stand-out roles of Morrow, Kirsh, Nibs, Wendy, and Boy Kavalier; excellent stuff!
...

I like it too. It would be worth rereading or rewatching (the famous Peter Pan on Disney+), it would probably help understand certain creative arcs and even be able to see things coming. I must admit, I don't remember Peter Pan at all.

We're definitely starting to like several supporting actors that we didn't really notice in the first two episodes. The camerawork is fantastic, and even all the monsters (xenomorphs and others) are fantastic too. We feel the organic side of the monsters' tissues, and it's great.

Angelman, I'm starting to sense two or three theories about what's coming, but they're still just theories. It's certain that all the monsters will lose control at some point (like in Jurassic Park). It's only a matter of time.

I actually like the show too... except for the end credits... I can't stand it...

Arthur.

Re: Alien: Earth and the rpg (Minor Spoilers for Ep1 & 2)

Posted: Fri 29 Aug 2025, 02:32
by _ArthurDallas_
Have to be honest, that eyeball-octopus thing is the stuff of nightmares, it creeps me out more than the human-alien thing at the end of Romulus :lol:
I don't even want to give it stats...

Still think Wendy is "hearing" the aliens because her hearing is ratcheted up beyond the human range. Curly can't hear anything because hers is set to "normal mode".

Also, can one of the friendly Moderators change the topic title to "Spoilers for the series" or something, since we're way past ep1 and 2, and while trying to avoid major spoilers, we're going to spill something.... (I couldn't see a way to edit it myself) -- thanks
...

I loved the sequence with the octopus eye. What's even more creepy is when the eye is installed in the goat and it looks at us with its giant (octopus) eye... hahahaha!

Arthur.

Re: Alien: Earth and the rpg (Spoilers for the series)

Posted: Fri 29 Aug 2025, 05:10
by _ArthurDallas_
I don't remember who asked about the USCSS MAGINOT, but here are some answers.

USCSS MAGINOT
REG. NO. 294068
LOCKMART MODEL CM88B BISON
(like the Nostromo but not a tug-ship)
BISON CLASS C (here's the explanation for the C, it's for the Bison class).

DEEP SPACE EXPLORATION VESSEL
CREW = 13 INCLUDING THE CAT
LENGTH = 334M (that's what I think)
MU/TH/UR 6000 (that's what I think)
COST = $36M (that's what I think)
SATURN J3000 ENGINES (that's what I think,or earlier versions)
M-CLASS SHIP
FTL RATING = hard to say

Arthur.

Re: Alien: Earth and the rpg (Spoilers for the series)

Posted: Fri 29 Aug 2025, 15:29
by MutantFromMars
I don't remember who asked about the USCSS MAGINOT, but here are some answers.

USCSS MAGINOT
REG. NO. 294068
LOCKMART MODEL CM88B BISON
(like the Nostromo but not a tug-ship)

FTL RATING = hard to say

Arthur.

Nice one - any reason to think the FTL rating wouldn't be too different to the Nostromo? - They've been out there for 65 years!

Re: Alien: Earth and the rpg (Spoilers for the series)

Posted: Fri 29 Aug 2025, 17:41
by _ArthurDallas_
I don't remember who asked about the USCSS MAGINOT, but here are some answers.

USCSS MAGINOT
REG. NO. 294068
LOCKMART MODEL CM88B BISON
(like the Nostromo but not a tug-ship)

FTL RATING = hard to say

Arthur.

Nice one - any reason to think the FTL rating wouldn't be too different to the Nostromo? - They've been out there for 65 years!
...

MutantFromMars, if you know the FTL rating of the USCSS NOSTROMO, in my book, I'd give it almost the same rating (possibly adding 4). I don't know if the information has come out anywhere on the Model CM-88B Bison.

The Model CM-88G Bison
FTL rating = 12
with the Saturn J3000 engines

The Model CM-88H Bison
FTL ratin = 8
with the Rolls-Royce engines

But we're talking about the CM-88B Bison series,
it must have a higher FTL rating (slower engine), I imagine.

That's still a Game Mother's decision, I imagine.

Arthur.

Re: Alien: Earth and the rpg (Minor Spoilers for Ep1 & 2)

Posted: Thu 04 Sep 2025, 05:13
by nolnah93
That Alien: Earth is written as an analogy to Peter Pan, both in its text and subtext, is hardly a worthy criticism, IMHO. Sure, one might be of the opinion that analogous writing is not to one’s liking – that is quite fair and valid – but attacking writers for using that approach is, I would say, not valid. It is a very common writing tool & story-telling shorthand, and quite popular.

Analogous writing worked well for Se7en (Dante’s Inferno), the very overt WWII French Resistance in Andor s2, The Lion King (Hamlet), just to name a couple. Personally, I find the analogous writing in Alien: Earth very sharp, and it is interesting to follow the writers’ machinations, so to speak.

One thing that interest me greatly in A:E – in addition to the fascinating characters and story arcs – is the fact that for the most part, I have no idea where all this is heading. I mean, it is pretty obvious that the rather peripheral Weyland-Yutani company is going to end up with all of Prodigy’s xeno research, (presumably through Morrow), which will prompt W-Y to redirect Nostromo’s course towards LV-426, tail-ending A:E straight into A. But other than that post-endgame destination, I have no idea how things are going to unfold going forward, and that is pretty cool.

Are there elements of the show worthy of criticism? Sure. For one, the pacing is a little weird (=high drama/action, followed by momentum-crushing dialogue scenes), and there is a LOT of stuff going on in every scene/sequence/shooting location (=somewhat distracting) but to be fair, that is a staple of Ridley Scott film-making, so a staple of the franchise. Moreover, I would have preferred if they hid the creatures and effects in smoke and darkness more, but apparently that is not allowed in the Alien franchise nowadays (=same problem in Alien: Romulus).

But largely, this show is pretty dang fine.

Shout-out to the acting (the people criticizing this show’s acting might have to check their medication), and the stand-out roles of Morrow, Kirsh, Nibs, Wendy, and Boy Kavalier; excellent stuff!

Timothy Olyphant is one of my favorite actors, so I’m loving Kirsch!