CitizenZero
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Re: Early Access Feedback - Core Rulebook Chapter 7

Tue 28 Jun 2022, 00:45

Page 160 is a description of the Vice Department.

...intelligence-gathering support division, responsible for collecting insights on any ongoing and organized criminal enterprises, including crime syndicates, gangs, the Human Supremacy Movement, and the Replicant Underground. Vice is responsible for infiltrating, deterring, and neutralizing such institutions and any human efforts to violate UN regulations or obstruct justice. Vice also collaborates with other Rep-Detect units during fugitive man hunts, and enforces various laws against Replicant-related hate crimes and criminal acts such as illegal trafficking, theft, gaming, counterfeiting, and animoid cruelty.


Vice is a fairly well accepted and established part of police organizations that covers pornography, prostitution, and gambling. Why take a common and accepted term ("Vice") and use it in a completely different way for this game?
 
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Re: Early Access Feedback - Core Rulebook Chapter 7

Tue 28 Jun 2022, 06:36

Page 160, Vice, as in above post:

...criminal acts such as illegal trafficking, theft, gaming, counterfeiting, and animoid cruelty.

“Gaming” should probably be “gambling”. In which case I’d move it next to “illegal”, as not all gambling is illegal, but all trafficking is.

Unless gaming actually is illegal in this dystopian world…
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Re: Early Access Feedback - Core Rulebook Chapter 7

Tue 28 Jun 2022, 21:35

Gaming means games of chance and skill, i.e. gambling, as in the Nevada Gaming Commission. That said, yeah, vice is all all up in SIS's house with the intelligence and counter-intelligence activities.
 
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Re: Early Access Feedback - Core Rulebook Chapter 7

Tue 28 Jun 2022, 22:12

Gaming means games of chance and skill, i.e. gambling, as in the Nevada Gaming Commission. That said, yeah, vice is all all up in SIS's house with the intelligence and counter-intelligence activities.

Except that in modern parlance, it seems to me “gaming” is mostly used in reference to hobby games like role-playing games, computer and console games, war games, tabletop miniature games, collectible card games…

Better, then, to avoid confusion and just say “gambling”.
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Re: Early Access Feedback - Core Rulebook Chapter 7

Tue 28 Jun 2022, 22:50

The gaming v. gambling issue is minor to me in comparison to calling a division that does the following, "Vice":

Intelligence-gathering support division, responsible for collecting insights on any ongoing and organized criminal enterprises, including crime syndicates, gangs, the Human Supremacy Movement, and the Replicant Underground. Vice is responsible for infiltrating, deterring, and neutralizing such institutions and any human efforts to violate UN regulations or obstruct justice.

Why not just say the LAPD has a counter-intelligence division?
 
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Re: Early Access Feedback - Core Rulebook Chapter 7

Tue 28 Jun 2022, 23:24

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