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When to allow pushing?
Posted: Wed 10 Jun 2020, 19:56
by Tywyll
So, the rules seem to indicate that you can push any roll you make. But I know some GM's encourage no pushing on 'passive' rolls and on exploration rolls for various reasons.
I kind of lean towards that, towards not allowing pushing in situations where the damage to an attribute isn't a potential threat (which is, admittedly, a lot of the time...i.e. I don't let them push often).
Am I being too restrictive?
Re: When to allow pushing?
Posted: Wed 10 Jun 2020, 22:24
by Ebrim
So, the rules seem to indicate that you can push any roll you make. But I know some GM's encourage no pushing on 'passive' rolls and on exploration rolls for various reasons.
I kind of lean towards that, towards not allowing pushing in situations where the damage to an attribute isn't a potential threat (which is, admittedly, a lot of the time...i.e. I don't let them push often).
Am I being too restrictive?
As one of those GMs, no.
I try to keep it simple and consistent though. So no pushing on journey rolls (if it has a mishap table, you probably can’t push it). I also don’t allow pushing on crafting, you can instead get bonus dice by taking longer to do it (RAW). Finally passive no push is RAW, looking for someone/something is different from just “keeping an eye out”.
Re: When to allow pushing?
Posted: Mon 15 Jun 2020, 13:09
by rennarda
Personally, I allow it as written - ie. any time you can improve a roll with more successes. My player is a magic user and so need to generate willpower to fuel her spells. Not allowing her to push rolls when needed would deprive her of a main source of her character's power.
Re: When to allow pushing?
Posted: Thu 18 Jun 2020, 15:30
by Tywyll
Oh, I allow pushing when things matter, it just seems too easy to gain willpower when you push your roll to make camp or whatnot.
Re: When to allow pushing?
Posted: Thu 18 Jun 2020, 16:04
by Just_Dave
How do you justify or explain the damage when pushing a roll like crafting? What "in game" stress results from that?
Re: When to allow pushing?
Posted: Thu 18 Jun 2020, 16:33
by Gromril
I permit to push in crafting, for me it is an injury or breaking gear issue during the process.
Instead in journeys I try to avoid pushing.
Remember that only in "active " action you can push, so not when you resist to something or someone
Re: When to allow pushing?
Posted: Fri 19 Jun 2020, 02:41
by Ebrim
Personally, I allow it as written - ie. any time you can improve a roll with more successes. My player is a magic user and so need to generate willpower to fuel her spells. Not allowing her to push rolls when needed would deprive her of a main source of her character's power.
So even RAW passive rolls are not to be pushed. And any restriction on pushing falls under "The GM has the final say."
I have a sorcerer in my party and I can't recall the last time he had no WP. Perhaps he has less on average than he would otherwise but I don't think it actually makes that big a difference in the end.
Re: When to allow pushing?
Posted: Wed 24 Jun 2020, 13:03
by Tywyll
How do you justify or explain the damage when pushing a roll like crafting? What "in game" stress results from that?
Bang your thumb with a hammer?