JohnWithAgun
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The worm people

Wed 09 Nov 2022, 10:59

So having read most of the book, i am left with some unanswered questions on the seventh aka worm people.

Its stated(?) that the seventh are the last of the worm people. Why? they had a continent, lands that could sustain large populations.

They evolve in generations(unsure if related to worms actual life span), when they have enough worms(possibly mindpower for their hive mind) most of them die and they evolve to their next stage of life. (Unsure if the state/look of the mother has anything to do with the look of the actual worms). What happens to the mother after this? Cant they just build up the seventh generation again and make a new mother?
The first generations was breed by human druids, so it seems the "mother" is not really need for worm to worm breeding, only evolution jumps.

it says the seventh will die when eight mother spawns a new generation, but didn't the seventh generation already pay the "blood-toll" when the eight mother was spawned? what even happens to "last-gen" worms?

I think its says they never tire or sleep, but Vilhelm spilled the beans while doing dream magic? how did that work. and how did he reach all the way over there.

Are they connected to Purple/abyss/rock worms?(the original reason humans went over the sea) is that related to last gen worms? where they spawned after the failed eight generation stunt maybe? is just cause they are both named worms and it confused me? :P
GM books says rock worms(abyss worms might not even be the same i guess) comes from the demon flood. Bloodmarch says Kton aka fire wyrms are closely related to abyss worms, but i get the feeling they have been here/there way longer. The great fire wyrm Erinya seems close with Horn, who predates the demon flood by like alot, so what going on here? (pure demon on demon feud?)

Sorry for my unstructured ramble.
Hope anyone might have some answers or theorys, or maybe something else they ponder themselves :P
 
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Re: The worm people

Wed 09 Nov 2022, 11:39

from the feedback but relevant here too
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page 86: THE SEVENTH’S FORMS: says demonic worms. (from different planes/dimensions)
page 57: THE ANCIENT HISTORY OF THE WORLD: Makes it seems the worms are native to this world, when druids (who should know if anyone if they are demons or not :) ) found them in a marsh.

So are they demonic or not?
 
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Re: The worm people

Wed 09 Nov 2022, 22:02

The worms numbers: What I was reading sounds like they reproduce very similar to slime molds.

Basically they reproduce "normally" in the slime molds case cellular division and in the worms case general reproduction. But once they reach a critical mass they begin to merge together into a larger organism and the rest are consumed/die off. This new super organism in the slime molds goes through stages to release spores that birth the next generation of individual slime mold cells. In the worms case this is the mothers that birth the next generation of more powerful/intelligent worms.

The 7th that exist are the last of the 7th generation that want to merge with the 8th mother to kick off her birth of the 8th and perpetuate their ascension. It doesn't matter how much land they controlled before. The species as a whole was consumed/died to create the 8th mother except for the remainder of the 7th that are in the campaign.


There were no purple worms or whatever. That was all myth, the truth of which was the 7th.
 
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Re: The worm people

Thu 10 Nov 2022, 09:51

The worms numbers: What I was reading sounds like they reproduce very similar to slime molds.

The 7th that exist are the last of the 7th generation that want to merge with the 8th mother to kick off her birth of the 8th and perpetuate their ascension. It doesn't matter how much land they controlled before. The species as a whole was consumed/died to create the 8th mother except for the remainder of the 7th that are in the campaign.

There were no purple worms or whatever. That was all myth, the truth of which was the 7th.
But when the seventh generation was spawned from the sixth, there would have been few that become many. Why doesn't this happen again? they had 1200 years and fertile lands? have they just been hibernating maybe? (in which case the "waiting them out" idea from the moonelfs seem stupid)

Yeah the rock worm myth are properly from the mind magic of the moonelfs, but where does the idea come from? pure coincidence the abyss worms just happens to jump in with the demon-flood later ? or maybe inspired by the fire wyrms/ktons if they are native to the bloodmarch, but in that case how are they related to the abyss worms?
 
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Re: The worm people

Thu 10 Nov 2022, 13:04

But when the seventh generation was spawned from the sixth, there would have been few that become many. Why doesn't this happen again? they had 1200 years and fertile lands? have they just been hibernating maybe? (in which case the "waiting them out" idea from the moonelfs seem stupid)
They can have it hardcoded into dna, something like "When enough worms gather in one place they start to generate enzyme with make them fuse into one single organism until "Full Queen" is born. This proces can be delayed but not stoped or reverted."
Yeah the rock worm myth are properly from the mind magic of the moonelfs, but where does the idea come from? pure coincidence the abyss worms just happens to jump in with the demon-flood later ? or maybe inspired by the fire wyrms/ktons if they are native to the bloodmarch, but in that case how are they related to the abyss worms?
If bloodlines can fead on sapiens emotions, it is possible some demons can assume forms they "Read" from minds, to be more scared.
 
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Re: The worm people

Thu 10 Nov 2022, 15:48

The worms numbers: What I was reading sounds like they reproduce very similar to slime molds.

The 7th that exist are the last of the 7th generation that want to merge with the 8th mother to kick off her birth of the 8th and perpetuate their ascension. It doesn't matter how much land they controlled before. The species as a whole was consumed/died to create the 8th mother except for the remainder of the 7th that are in the campaign.

There were no purple worms or whatever. That was all myth, the truth of which was the 7th.
But when the seventh generation was spawned from the sixth, there would have been few that become many. Why doesn't this happen again? they had 1200 years and fertile lands? have they just been hibernating maybe? (in which case the "waiting them out" idea from the moonelfs seem stupid)

Yeah the rock worm myth are properly from the mind magic of the moonelfs, but where does the idea come from? pure coincidence the abyss worms just happens to jump in with the demon-flood later ? or maybe inspired by the fire wyrms/ktons if they are native to the bloodmarch, but in that case how are they related to the abyss worms?
Because the 7th mother is dead. So is the 6th.

The abyss worms are not from demon realms. The Abyss Worms are from space. They likely don't relate to the Abyss Worms at all.
 
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Re: The worm people

Sun 05 Mar 2023, 11:15

“The temples of the winter elves are adorned with stone statues, reliefs and images of their gods in many forms: immense worm creatures, humanoid creatures made up of worms, humanoids with worm heads or hands. They trample the infidels of various kin beneath their feet and spread death and destruction.”

Speaking of the worms, the winter elves seemed to worship them 3,000 years ago. Any thoughts on this?

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