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Yes that would be perfect, you could restrict it to the figher. Also the fighter has a talent tree just for hidden combos which some people will not use so it would be nice if they got something else as well.

Yes that would be perfect, you could restrict it to the figher. Also the fighter has a talent tree just for hidden combos which some people will not use so it would be nice if they got something else as well.

That is something I have thought about as I read the rules. If you don't play with the Advanced Close Combat rules on of the talent tree for the fighter is obsolete. A talent like Armor Expert that would be used like Lucky and Executioner in rank 1. And rank 2 could be an improvement of +1 to the Armor Rating and rank 3 that you can cancel damage on a 1:1 ratio with WP.

I'm not sure I like this work-around, as it kind of makes the Fighter / Hunter talent a bit pointless.

PC: "I spend a Willpower Point to ignore his armour!"
GM: "I spend a Willpower Point to have armour which can't be penetrated!"

Surely it would be better to just nerf the Fighter / Hunter talent a bit, and if creating an Armour talent-path, give some bonus dice to their Armour Rating.  

"You are an expert at wearing armour, knowing just how to wear it so that gaps and weak points are kept to a minimum.  Spend 1 WP to increase your AR by +2."

I'm not sure I like this work-around, as it kind of makes the Fighter / Hunter talent a bit pointless.

PC: "I spend a Willpower Point to ignore his armour!"
GM: "I spend a Willpower Point to have armour which can't be penetrated!"

Surely it would be better to just nerf the Fighter / Hunter talent a bit, and if creating an Armour talent-path, give some bonus dice to their Armour Rating.  

"You are an expert at wearing armour, knowing just how to wear it so that gaps and weak points are kept to a minimum.  Spend 1 WP to increase your AR by +2."

I don’t think that would be enough for a talent with WP use. But I‘m not as disturbed by the talents that ignore APs than that one talent is obsolete if you don’t play with the Advanced Combat Rules. I really wish that there is an optional talent in the rules for groups that don’t want to play with these rules.

Just checking the armour rules and it seems that the max armour is 10 (combination of Bacinet and Plate Armour), it seems a bit OTT for this to be bypassed by spending one WP on a tier 1 talent.  This would become an essential 'no-brainer' talent for all Warriors and undermine any character that wears armour.

Just checking the armour rules and it seems that the max armour is 10 (combination of Bacinet and Plate Armour), it seems a bit OTT for this to be bypassed by spending one WP on a tier 1 talent.  This would become an essential 'no-brainer' talent for all Warriors and undermine any character that wears armour.

You’re absolutely correct. I thought erroneously that you have to spend 1 WP to ignore 1 AR. But you ignore all Armor with 1 WP. Ok that is way too powerful!

As this thread has something to do with Armor I will ask my questions here.
A shield give you a bonus – a bonus to what? Parry, Armor Rating? And if it’s Armor Rating than a shield would give you nothing if you have no armor?
And if I rolled three successes for my chainmail but still one damage penetrates my armor than I will my Armor Rating is reduced by three? Armor in FL is not very durable it seems…

Not sure it's as overpowered as it seems... Each point of armor only has a 1/6 chance to soak a point of damage, and if they don't soak it all the armor gets damaged. Plus, Willpower seems like a precious resource, and if you spend it before your attack roll it might not even be useful. We'll see how it holds in playtesting, but I would try it raw first.

My concern on the other hand is that armor is really cheap. A full suit of plate is 1GP... Isn't plate armor supposed to be custom-made really expensive stuff?

Not sure it's as overpowered as it seems... Each point of armor only has a 1/6 chance to soak a point of damage, and if they don't soak it all the armor gets damaged. Plus, Willpower seems like a precious resource, and if you spend it before your attack roll it might not even be useful. We'll see how it holds in playtesting, but I would try it raw first.

My concern on the other hand is that armor is really cheap. A full suit of plate is 1GP... Isn't plate armor supposed to be custom-made really expensive stuff?

You can build up to 10 WP from pushing rolls, and I believe it ends up being a very fluid currency (I have Mutant Year Zero but alas haven't had a chance to play yet).  Maybe not enough to spend on each combat but available enough to spend against heavily armoured foes.  10 lots of 1/6 chance of soaking some damage is pretty good, an 84% chance of scoring at least one six.  That then goes to a 0% chance against anyone that activates this tier 1 talent.
 
Usually I wouldn't bring out the big bad black knight until late in a game as a mega-boss, but now I would likely not bother to give heavily armoured foes unless I want the PC to pick-up some new armour!

I agree, the costs all seem quite low, the modest expensive melee weapon is a two-handed sword at 3 GP and Heavy Crossbow is 6 GP

Armor seems cheap but armor will be damaged very often and if you have no one that can repair the armor you have to buy new armor. And I think if you find someone who can repair your armor you have to buy this service.