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p.58 Arcinyas now has the additionnal Distinctive Feature of Faithful, on top of Frail already described in Ruins p.41?

p.59 Really?! Nothing about the pass of the Gladden, while the official map has impassable terrain depicted there?! Are the players supposed then to head through the Redhorn pass or Moria itself?

p.63 So if the Loremaster has access to the Moria book, instead of the Moria Hazard table here at the end of the adventure (which should have a reference to p73 for clarity I think) should he roll instead on the Moria Journey Event in Moria book p37?

p.68 Rumour section there's a box instead of the intended apostrophe in "Unwearied then were Durin*s folk". And where is the Sixteenth Hall- Harper's hall- supposed to be situated in Moria?

I've placed my pre order for both new books. I do not see the drive thru rpg link. Is it delayed?

I wonder the same. I just ordered and I haven´t got the PDF in either email or anything at Drive thru rpg. That´s the reason that I ordered, to get "immeatiate access". But there is nothing. What´s happening??

<-- To you that have the same experience, wait for about 15-20 min and the email with the link will show up...

p.76 is the gatekeeper a Bert or, 2 lines down in same paragraph, a Bill?!

p.81 How is the result on Combat outcome table of 5-6 better than 3-4? Perhaps it's because I find the whole mechanical effect of this complex turn of events well rather ambiguous with all the different options presented... Losing the band does not alter Saruman's Shadow. So I guess it's still the better option because the warband does not disband and is thus available for the next round if any?

p.82 Ok, there really should be guidance here for the loremaster on how to deal with the obvious tensions that will arise from being setup with uruks!

p.83 Ok so for every unforeseen circumstance, wholly determined by Loremaster choice, they lose 1 day and roll on the Endeavour for the search, this right? Maybe then add a note about how this is a way to tailor difficulty? How would a loremaster not be interested in so many little side things?!

p.88 Is this new version of Usapthon, with updated attacks (Club with Knockback and Dagger with pierce special option), supposed to be the official version to use as errata to Ruins p.36?

p.94 no mention of what happens if the players themselves loot the admiral's treasure or what's to be done here other than save the burial site?

p.100 Just surprising that Huorns would be relegated to Ent clones, while the descriptions of the Ghost Forest in previous adventure give up a much more closer feel to how these trees are described in canon text.

p.100 are both a Healing and Enhearten rolls necessary to get the dwarves in top shape? The plural use of rolls seems ambiguous if it's multiples of each, one of each or just even the one!

p.104 thanks for making a final answer on how the Many Arms ability of the Watcher works from previous description in Moria p 175

p.108 Not sure here about the timeframe from the set 2994: previous section talked about how the players might prevent killing of dwarves (does that include Balin himself?), then we have this new section that speaks of happening after the death of Balin in the third year of the expedition, so 2992??

p.113 perhaps some more guidance is needed to choose what sort of delay we are talking about when setting the time limit of the escape?

pp121-122 Is this a regular Journey, and are both tables used as alternative Journey event tables or are these to be used additionally for other happenings?

p.122 I'm guessing "a thousand thousand..." is not just an error of repetition but voluntary?

p.129 I understand we were looking for an alternative to Snake-like speed, but "Wind-like speed" is already used for fell abilities of winged creatures in Moria as an exemple.

p.129 For Heledirien and the other Rangers, in the Combat Proficiencies the spacing between Great--bow is different though making up the same number of characters and taking up same space.

p.136 So a Nazgûl can be Intimidated magically, but not Saruman? Interesting debate I presume.

p.137 Interesting that we should present Shelob, whose stats do not make her an impossible challenge for experienced character, as the cherry on the cake of too much danger, when she seems to be the least of troubles the party has had to face since getting into the Vale, including possibly Ring wraiths!

p.140 "use the higher of the attacker's Strenght TN...", but there's only one Strenght TN?!

@doktor

“ p.140 "use the higher of the attacker's Strenght TN...", but there's only one Strenght TN?!”

You’re using the higher of the attacker’s strength TN or the defender’s parry. So if the attacker is a hobbit with strength tn 18 and the target has parry 16, we use a tn of 18. If the attacker had a strength tn of 14 and the defender had parry 22, we use the higher tn, so parry of 22.

@doktor

“ p.140 "use the higher of the attacker's Strenght TN...", but there's only one Strenght TN?!”

You’re using the higher of the attacker’s strength TN or the defender’s parry. So if the attacker is a hobbit with strength tn 18 and the target has parry 16, we use a tn of 18. If the attacker had a strength tn of 14 and the defender had parry 22, we use the higher tn, so parry of 22.

Ah yes now I see, I thought it was a situation where the target's parry was also implicated, not an "or" situation. So we compare which one is hardest between the 2.

p.88 Has text spelling Usapthon, but right hand image Usaphton.

I am upset to see all of the little "TM"s whenever sources are given for quotations from the canon. This is new for TOR and deeply unwelcome. That stupid little symbol pulls the reader completely out of Tolkien's world.

PDF 72 (print page 68). Typo. Durin's Hall beeds an apostrophe. It has a square symbol.

PDF 98 (print page 94). Admiral's Ship. How can something at such high elevation (see pictures on PDF 96/print 92, it looks at least 4 ship masts above river level) have "a fast-flowing channel of river water guards the tomb"

Not believable this high above river level (while adjacent to the river). Have it be a moat filled with rainwater from the shaft, and evaporation keeps it from overflowing, and Numenorean science calculated it would never run dry either.

To make crossing a hazard, have it be inhabited by undead soon after Numenorean abandonment (but before the entrance was buried over the millenia), otherwise tomb raiders would have scoured it clean millenia ago.

Same reasoning, place undead guards in the Hall of Trophies. The "roof acts sentient and will collapse if you try and loot it" is not enough deterrent.