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Apart from any other consideration, if Gurthang is buried by Túrin, both of them are under the waves, after the sinking of Beleriand.

They're not, actually; the Stone of the Hapless is where he is buried, and Glirhuin prophesied that it would never be defiled by Morgoth, nor sink beneath the sea, which is just what happened; Tol Morwen is one of the few bits of Beleriand that still stands above the waves. Tol Morwen is what, in this adventure, is called the Isle of the Mother (probably for copyright/licensing reasons).

Apart from any other consideration, if Gurthang is buried by Túrin, both of them are under the waves, after the sinking of Beleriand.

They're not, actually; the Stone of the Hapless is where he is buried, and Glirhuin prophesied that it would never be defiled by Morgoth, nor sink beneath the sea, which is just what happened; Tol Morwen is one of the few bits of Beleriand that still stands above the waves. Tol Morwen is what, in this adventure, is called the Isle of the Mother (probably for copyright/licensing reasons).

Holy shit!

They're not, actually; the Stone of the Hapless is where he is buried, and Glirhuin prophesied that it would never be defiled by Morgoth, nor sink beneath the sea, which is just what happened; Tol Morwen is one of the few bits of Beleriand that still stands above the waves. Tol Morwen is what, in this adventure, is called the Isle of the Mother (probably for copyright/licensing reasons).

Holy shit!

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I recommend giving The Silmarillion a read. Maybe also Unfinished Tales!

So I love deep Tolkien lore and my players do too. I'm planning to run a campaign that blends Lone Lands with parts of the Moria book as well, and the party is going to be all-dwarves.

That said, I find the origin of the hero for dwarves kind of lackluster. I am encouraging one of my players to be a Firebeard, descended from Nogrod and then Moria.

My idea is that the legendary hero (dwarven version) was a descendent of Telchar, whose master also taught Eol how to make his swords. After the fall of Gondolin Telchar or dwarves associated with Telchar who knew of the strength of Eol's swords recovered Anguirel from Maeglin's body and had it buried near Turin's grave as a way of safekeeping a powerful weapon in a place where it would ever be safe. When the Hill of Fear rose, some descendent of Telchar rose to oppose it, new from family knowledge about the location of Aguirel, and retrieved it from Tol Morwen. The rest of the sequence I think can be left as is?

Any ideas on how to improve it? I mainly just think that leading the players to the grave of Turin and then having this other sword with bits of star-iron that is NOT one of the two swords is lame, and obviously Anglachel cannot be risked moving from Turin's grave, so I want the sword to be Anguirel, and the hero will be a dwarf.

I wouldn't go so far as to call this an improvement, but there is a strong possibility that not all of the Firebeards who survived the destruction of Beleriand migrated to Khazad-dum. At least some of the Dwarves of the Blue Mountains remained there throughout the Second and Third Ages--at least in the southern range. The upheavals brought about by the War of Wrath created new opportunities for the Dwarves who remained In the Blue Mountains.

That's a good point, I think a lot of the dwarves, especially in the Southern Blue Mountains are Firebeards and Broadbellies. I was only moving the family to Moria because the Moria supplement has some interesting stuff about the members of those tribes who DO move there, and my campaign is going to mix in some adventure phases in Moria as well.

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For whatever it's worth, I tend to associate the Firebeards with Nogrod (perhaps because I think of them as being temperamental) and the Broadbeams (not "bellies") with the city of Belegost.