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Hello Tomas,
The work being done on your product line keeps showing how a good product should be made to the point that I keep getting amazing feedback from new players as an Agent of the League (have been running lots of Dragonbane at local fairs and game nights).

My group of regulars for mostly Alien and Dragonbane gifted me the Kickstarter for the Evolved Edition to keep me mastering (not sure who's the gift is for but... you dont look the gifted horse in the mouth i gues.. ) and i saw that an Evolved version of CMOM was also part of it.

I was wondering if you could spend a little space in the Evolved CMOM to add\clarify how the CMOM version of the PILOT its supposed to be build during character creation (skill points allocation, talents, etc) as quite recurrently my players get confused on what rules should apply or not apply.

As i just re-stumbled on this issue last night, maybe you could even anticipate here on the forum how it should be done?

Thanks again and looking forward to receive the new Evolved edition!
N.

Hello Tomas,
The work being done on your product line keeps showing how a good product should be made to the point that I keep getting amazing feedback from new players as an Agent of the League (have been running lots of Dragonbane at local fairs and game nights).

My group of regulars for mostly Alien and Dragonbane gifted me the Kickstarter for the Evolved Edition to keep me mastering (not sure who's the gift is for but... you dont look the gifted horse in the mouth i gues.. ) and i saw that an Evolved version of CMOM was also part of it.

I was wondering if you could spend a little space in the Evolved CMOM to add\clarify how the CMOM version of the PILOT its supposed to be build during character creation (skill points allocation, talents, etc) as quite recurrently my players get confused on what rules should apply or not apply.

As i just re-stumbled on this issue last night, maybe you could even anticipate here on the forum how it should be done?

Thanks again and looking forward to receive the new Evolved edition!
N.

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Hi Newt, welcome to the Alien RPG forum. I don't know if this answers your question, but the "career pilot" will be in the new Corerules Evolved Edition (beta PDF, page 37). You'll find all the details there (if you have the Corerules). All the books (Corerules Evolved Edition + Starter Set Evolved HLD Expanded + Cinematic Rapture Protocol) are in final draft form, and everything should be out by the holidays (in my opinion, but I don't have the exact dates yet). They're currently rewriting a new final version, so I can't help you right now.

The best thing to do is work with the books (I mean PDFs) you currently have in hand; you have either the Corerules Evolved (Beta PDF) or the Starter Set Evolved HLD Expanded with a very shortened rulebook (Beta PDF). If you don't have the Beta PDFs, you should check with the person who provided you with the gift in question (if you have a gift bundle, you need a Beta PDF).

If I understand correctly, you have the CMOM Evolved expansion (lucky you, I haven't seen the CMOM Evolved edition; I played the first edition of CMOM, so I'm pretty familiar with everything). For now, you can probably base your pilot stats (career) on the NPC pilot Lieutenant Karen Eckhart. But in my opinion, you probably don't need a pilot in the fighter squad because they should all be playing Marines.

I don't know exactly which books you have, but with a bit of specificity, Newt, it would help me better understand your needs. If you could clarify your requirements for me, please.

Arthur.

I was under the impression that a Colonial Marine Pilot, would use both CORE and CMON following example:
1. Choose unit commander
2. Choose MOS/Career (This case being Pilot)
3. Determine attributes
4. Determine skills
*Attribute and skill restrictions based off (PILOT) from CORE and restrictions in CMON*
5. Choose MOS/Career Talent (PILOT)
6. Roll on Event table C
7. Choose Rank
8. Choose Name
9. Choose Appearance
10. Determine Personal Agenda
11. Choose Buddy/Rival
12. Starting Gear: Basic Gear, List A gear, List B gear, and Pilot's Specialty Gear. Determine signature item.

In short the Military pilot has to allocate a skill point in CLOSE COMBAT, STAMINA, RANGED COMBAT, PILOTING, and COMTECH, has a basic training event, and has more starting gear than a civilian pilot.

Hi Newt,

Thanks for your explanation. Well, I haven't read CMOM Evolved, and you're telling me about a recurring problem with the pilot version (first edition) of CMOM. Please explain to me (in your own words) the problem in question for the Pilot, and I'll do my best to answer you right away with a solution (that I can see). I don't remember the error in question, so if you could refresh my memory, that would be great.

What I see, and this is my understanding of your request, in the Core Rules (first edition PDF p. 50), we're talking about a civilian, not a military, career pilot who works on cargo runs. In CMOM (first edition PDF p. 56), you have the military Dropship Crew Chief (like Spunkmayer in Aliens). He's not a pilot but a flight technician, but you can use that as a basis for the military pilot with the key attribute AGILITY. Take the Pilot elements from the Corerules (PDF p. 50) with a mix of elements for the Marines (CMOM First Edition PDF p. 56 and up).

As a reference, use Lieutenant Karen Eckhart (CMOM First Edition PDF p. 113) for attributes, skills, talents, and gear.

Also, I invite you to write a note in the thread (Official Errata) regarding the Pilot elements to be corrected in CMOM Evolved.

P.S. I remember, they didn't include the Pilot career in CMOM because it was already in the Corerules. You just have to keep in mind that in the Corerules, the Pilot career is non-military. So, you need to add military elements from CMOM and you'll be ready for the adventure.

Enjoy your games,
Arthur.

I was under the impression that a Colonial Marine Pilot, would use both CORE and CMON following example:
1. Choose unit commander
2. Choose MOS/Career (This case being Pilot)
3. Determine attributes
4. Determine skills
*Attribute and skill restrictions based off (PILOT) from CORE and restrictions in CMON*
5. Choose MOS/Career Talent (PILOT)
6. Roll on Event table C
7. Choose Rank
8. Choose Name
9. Choose Appearance
10. Determine Personal Agenda
11. Choose Buddy/Rival
12. Starting Gear: Basic Gear, List A gear, List B gear, and Pilot's Specialty Gear. Determine signature item.

In short the Military pilot has to allocate a skill point in CLOSE COMBAT, STAMINA, RANGED COMBAT, PILOTING, and COMTECH, has a basic training event, and has more starting gear than a civilian pilot.