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The general rules for the "Lead the Way" action while travelling state that the pathfinder rolls before entering a new hex, but that you enter it regardless of outcome - in case of a failure, the consequence being that you additionally roll on the mishaps table.

But what about mishap results that state you "won't make any progress on the map during this Quarter Day"? Does this only prevent all further travel, i.e. it only affects you if you haven't already used your maximum travel allowance, or does it mean you do not enter the hex you rolled for after all?

I agree completely that there is a contradiction, and I am "overthinking" it too. I found the table in the Swedish version of the game ("Svärdets sång", https://freeleaguepublishing.com/sv/gam ... dets-sang/). The quicksand, blocked terrain, lost and downpour mishaps all contain the wording "Ni [...]kommer inte vidare på kartan dette kvartdygn". A word-for-word translation would be: "You [...] come not further on the map this quarter day", hence it seems "progress" should be "further progress" as someone suggested. Hence it seems only fog in difficult terrain will prevent you from entering the new hex, and in the cases of quicksand, blocked terrain and lost you need to pass the tests to make further progress (get out of the hex you just entered).

In my opinion, you definitely enter the new hex every time.
Why?
The hex you are in, you already know very well, and in case you return to this hex ever again, you wouldn't even make a test in the first place.
Consider the mishap "lost": how can you be lost in the hex you already explored?

Of course you are lost in the new hex! And have to stay there now! And can explore it if you dare! (This also goes along with the "fail forward" mentality of the game!)

It is also consistent with the procedure.

Furthermore, the formulation "you won't make any progress this quarter day" is outright wrong, if the mishap occured in any hex after the first hex. There was progress this quarter day. I won't send my players back to the start.

Of course, I support the notion, that everyone should play the game as they see fit. The suspicious element in this case though, is definitely the wording of the mishaps and on my table, clearly written procedures take priority over suspicious crunch that could well be fluff. (And there is much fluff written in the mishaps, which is a good thing).

Cheers, BK

The hex you are in, you already know very well, and in case you return to this hex ever again, you wouldn't even make a test in the first place.

I will use such a rule too, although I don't think it is in the book.

Consider the mishap "lost": how can you be lost in the hex you already explored?
Of course you are lost in the new hex! And have to stay there now! And can explore it if you dare! (This also goes along with the "fail forward" mentality of the game!)

Good points.

Furthermore, the formulation "you won't make any progress this quarter day" is outright wrong

Exactly, and the point of my post was that we can prove it by looking at the Swedish formulation. The original poster was looking for an answer from an official source, and I think the Swedish formulation can be considered such a source.

Cheers

The hex you are in, you already know very well, and in case you return to this hex ever again, you wouldn't even make a test in the first place.

I will use such a rule too, although I don't think it is in the book.

It is actually in the book, p.147 "lead the way; back again?"

It is actually in the book, p.147 "lead the way; back again?"

Indeed it is, and when I see it, I even remember reading it. (Later a house rule discussion gave me the impression the rules didn't consider this, but they do). Thanks.