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Re: Whoa! Some big rules changes in your inbox

Posted: Tue 17 Sep 2019, 22:26
by Fenhorn


Where are the new rules for spell casting?
In the Player's Handbook 2nd printing (on Kickstarter now along with the new campaign book, Bitter Reach). If you have a PDF of that (from DriveThruRPG most likely) then that should be updated by now). Tomas said on KS that they might make an errata PDF for everyone that doesn't have PDF of the books (and thus haven't got the updated book), so hopefully that will happen.
I have the upated pdf but i can't spot any differences with the physical one... I'm sure that the pdf is updated because of goblin/nocturnal!
There is no difference with spellcasting, what I have noticed. The difference is how NPC uses WP.

Re: Whoa! Some big rules changes in your inbox

Posted: Tue 17 Sep 2019, 22:59
by todneykros

In the Player's Handbook 2nd printing (on Kickstarter now along with the new campaign book, Bitter Reach). If you have a PDF of that (from DriveThruRPG most likely) then that should be updated by now). Tomas said on KS that they might make an errata PDF for everyone that doesn't have PDF of the books (and thus haven't got the updated book), so hopefully that will happen.
I have the upated pdf but i can't spot any differences with the physical one... I'm sure that the pdf is updated because of goblin/nocturnal!
There is no difference with spellcasting, what I have noticed. The difference is how NPC uses WP.
Ok, i agree!

Re: Whoa! Some big rules changes in your inbox

Posted: Wed 18 Sep 2019, 00:32
by lupex
On the other hand, an NPC with Rank 2 can cast spells up to Power Level 2 (3-4 if they are Half-Elves and/or using Ingredients) every round, regardless of the number of WP the players happened to have at the beginning of the session.
I have had a reread for most of the spells and it seems this new approach to NPC spell power levels will work well, with only a few spells where PCs could get a clear upper hand but this is balanced by a PCs use of WP.

Re: Whoa! Some big rules changes in your inbox

Posted: Wed 18 Sep 2019, 07:10
by hperantunes
Another change to the Player's Handbook that wasn't present in the list published by Fria Ligan - the text for Grimoires (p.120):

  • The entry now includes "(chance casting doesn't count)".

With this, a beginner character can no longer start the game with almost completely safe access to Rank 3 spells, which is a very welcome change.

Alongside with the new text for Bind Magic, what I had considered to be the two most broken mechanics of the game are now fixed! :)

Re: Whoa! Some big rules changes in your inbox

Posted: Thu 19 Sep 2019, 02:10
by faun
is there a collected PDF of the changes. I'd like to print them and put them in the books I have. It is annoying to have to always go back to the PDF.

Re: Whoa! Some big rules changes in your inbox

Posted: Thu 19 Sep 2019, 06:22
by hperantunes
is there a collected PDF of the changes. I'd like to print them and put them in the books I have. It is annoying to have to always go back to the PDF.

Unfortunately, not at this time.

Another unlisted change to the Player's Handbook, Opposed Rolls (p.49):

  • Clarifying that the act of rolling on an opposed roll does not count as an action to the defender, and that "DODGING and PARRYING in close combat are technically not opposed rolls, as they require an action by the defender, and can be pushed."

Re: Whoa! Some big rules changes in your inbox

Posted: Thu 19 Sep 2019, 06:39
by hperantunes
Lead the Way and Keep Watch (PHB p.145): Clarified that helping is not allowed.

Re: Whoa! Some big rules changes in your inbox

Posted: Thu 19 Sep 2019, 09:49
by lupex
Lead the Way and Keep Watch (PHB p.145): Clarified that helping is not allowed.
Well spotted.

Lots of small changes to clarify things.

Re: Whoa! Some big rules changes in your inbox

Posted: Thu 19 Sep 2019, 13:59
by hperantunes
is there a collected PDF of the changes. I'd like to print them and put them in the books I have. It is annoying to have to always go back to the PDF.

Thank Rust, Fria Ligan has just provided an errata! :D

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rvuhlstdhkf28 ... G.pdf?dl=0

The swedish version can be found in their latest Kickstarter email.

Edit: unfortunately, the errata does not list all of the changes to the second printing of the books. :(

Re: Whoa! Some big rules changes in your inbox

Posted: Fri 20 Sep 2019, 00:16
by faun
So we need an errata for the errata sheet. So currently there isn't a comprehensive list, will this be remedied, I'll look through this and add notes to my PDF for printing.