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Arnold
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Missing oppotunities for scorcerers in the gerneral skills

Thu 25 Jan 2018, 16:19

As i am reading the new english chapters, i have recognized that are a lot of general skills to make melee fighters, ranged fighters, scouts, thiefs or manipulators better.
But away from herbalist for druids their are no generals talents which gives boni in casting.
As the three or four class talents only give access to differnt spell lists, their are simply null talents special for spellcasters.

Are they coming in later books or is this concept?
  
 
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Re: Missing oppotunities for scorcerers in the gerneral skills

Thu 25 Jan 2018, 18:27

But a spellcaster doesn't roll with a skill to succeed in his casting. He rolls for his spent WP to see what happens. And I don't know if a talent that reduces the chance of mishaps wouldn't be too powerful.
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Re: Missing oppotunities for scorcerers in the gerneral skills

Thu 25 Jan 2018, 18:37

But a spellcaster doesn't roll with a skill to succeed in his casting. He rolls for his spent WP to see what happens. And I don't know if a talent that reduces the chance of mishaps wouldn't be too powerful.
There could be talents to help a magician in some way without actually granting them bonuses to their spellcasting.  I think this is what Arnold meant - oder?
 
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Re: Missing oppotunities for scorcerers in the gerneral skills

Thu 25 Jan 2018, 18:49

But a spellcaster doesn't roll with a skill to succeed in his casting. He rolls for his spent WP to see what happens. And I don't know if a talent that reduces the chance of mishaps wouldn't be too powerful.
There could be talents to help a magician in some way without actually granting them bonuses to their spellcasting.  I think this is what Arnold meant - oder?
But what should that be? A spellcaster should not only concentrate on his spellcasting abilities as he should know how to defend himself. Personally I think that the casters could learn other Talents that will help them survive.
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Re: Missing oppotunities for scorcerers in the gerneral skills

Thu 25 Jan 2018, 18:58

Yes, 9 littlebees, that is what i meant. 

Are you from the Hannover region? Thats where i live, if so, we could join for playtesting ...
 
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Thu 25 Jan 2018, 19:25

Yes, 9 littlebees, that is what i meant. 

Are you from the Hannover region? Thats where i live, if so, we could join for playtesting ...
Sort of, I'll send you a PM.
 
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Re: Missing oppotunities for scorcerers in the gerneral skills

Thu 25 Jan 2018, 21:26

Survival related talents seem relevant for druids as they are probably spending a lot of time "out there" to collect herbs and whatnot.
For mages... Speed reading? I agree it's hard to come up with much that seems right. Talents that open up special paths to hidden knowledge might be interesting if it meshes with the setting and the world's history.
 
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Re: Missing oppotunities for scorcerers in the gerneral skills

Thu 25 Jan 2018, 22:33

Might remake some of the ones proposed in this thread:

http://forum.frialigan.se/viewtopic.php ... 8&start=40
 
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Re: Missing oppotunities for scorcerers in the gerneral skills

Thu 25 Jan 2018, 22:43

I like the 4 talents from Eldhierta. 
As other ideas, what about a talent to have the right indegriends with you?
Or to reduce casting time of rituals?
Or to specialize in a certain spell and cast this mightier?
Or to help against magic mishape?
Or to stretch the range or duration of spells?

I can imagine a lot of possibilities ...
 
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Re: Missing oppotunities for scorcerers in the gerneral skills

Thu 25 Jan 2018, 23:28

I thought of the spellcasters as more the Gandalf or Allanon (the Druid from Shannara, hope I got the name correct). Don’t know how much WP will be generated in a session but 10 are max, I think - although I don’t remember if this is correct.
Therefore in my minds eye the spellcasters have to learn to use weapons and perhaps a talent or two to use them better.
Magic seems very powerful to me and hence perhaps talents that would improve a caster could be unbalancing. But as I not played it yet I have no idea.
But Arnold’s ideas are very cool if you want to empower your caster.
Especially the specialised spell, a rote spell, is very appealing to me.
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