Monstertomten
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Travel between Ravenland and Alderland

Sat 18 May 2019, 19:24

In the history of the Forbidden Lands there are many occasions when the difficulty of travel between Ravenland and Alderland is of importance. Since there are no maps of Alderland I've imagined the western coast continued southward from Ravenland into Alderland.

Then it struck me... why not travel to the Forbidden lands by boat? It suddenly seems illogical to build a giant wall in a mountain pass when you can just take a fisherman's boat to travel between the countries. Somewhat of a game breaker when it comes to world building...

I have a few thoughts on this myself. But would love to hear what you guys think of this.
 
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Brior
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Re: Travel between Ravenland and Alderland

Sat 18 May 2019, 19:41

I had some thoughts on this, but they never made it to the final setting – don't remember why really. The main point from a gaming perspective is that we don't want people to travel to Alderland since it's not there yet obviously. Also there was hesitation on letting people travel from Alderland to Ravenland since we don't want other then anecdotal knowledge of Alderland in Ravenland. Otherwise I think it would have been neat to have criminals lowered into Ravenland, never to be allowed to return (much like in the movie ”Escape from New York”). My first map draft had a mine camp close to the Iron Lock, where newcomers were welcomed (as workforce / slaves / goods) and were given a first introduction to Ravenland.

Concerning preventing boating, there was talk about godly sea monsters or a giant maelstrom in the water, combined with insufficient knowledge of building ships able to leave the coastline. As there probably will be boating in an upcoming expansion, this will not work.

So you can either allow sailing to Ravenland or stop it in some other way. My suggestion is a device I used in a world I drew in the 80-ies and 90-ies, where the sea surface is not necessarily flat in all places. Imagine a permanent immobile wave hemming in the Ravenland coast – a water ridge. You cant sail upwater since your boat will simply slide back from the attempt to cross it. I think that idea is pretty elegant and not too hard to accept.
 
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Re: Travel between Ravenland and Alderland

Sat 18 May 2019, 19:42

… and the western coastline does indeed continue down to Alderland.
 
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Re: Travel between Ravenland and Alderland

Sat 18 May 2019, 20:15

Wonderful answer! Especially since the plan is to actually let the players be criminals lowered into Ravenland with the words "never look back" or somesuch ;)

I was thinking of a less startling obstacle preventing alderlanders from reaching the western coast, such as high mountains and a deep dangerous forest. But now! The unmoving tsunami will be there for sure.
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