I totally agree with you about demons.
A Demon is an out-world, out-planned creature, hus, that doesn't belong to this plan.
About creature, my question is precisely about the technical meaning of "monster" VS the world.
To me, the mechanics of the game must have some catch with reality of the world to build coherence in it.
And the technical word defines a part of the GM BOok in which you can find animals, demons, former unrare intelligents beings, etc.
But the problem to me is to distinguish what is truly a monster, regarding the world, an technically defined. ^^
I'm okay with the fact that in the world, the word "monster" defines manythings regarding the person who uses it, even demons why not.
But the technical world "Monster", what does it truly include from the world? that's in short, my wonder...
In the world, we can find two things, basically : intelligent being (I'll call them sentients), and animals.
But as there are undeads, demons, handmade creatures (misgrown, etc.) that doesn't fit to both type, I need a third type that I call Aberrations containing all.
And this allows me to consider:
- dragons, giants, etc. as Sentients (some are monsters, those most dangerous or destructive)
- gray bear, giant squids, etc. as Animals (some are monsters, those most dangerous or destructive)
- harpies, minotaurs, etc. as Aberrations (all are monsters, they break the law of nature)
My problem is mostly that if find confusing the blurred line between both "in world meaning" and "rule meaning" of the same world Monster.
And as spells, skills, uses the world in a technical way, it's important to know if a gray bear or a giant squid is an animal or not. Because as a druid, I can use Beast Master on a gray bear or not. Wether it is an animal or not (technically).
And the problem is the same with demons.
They are creature from outer world.
But, they are also defined as creature made from Mog.
My problem is, what about abyss worm or insectoids? They are not from Churmog, and not made with mog, but they are from another plan.
Here again, there is an "in world" definition : "They are creature from outer world."
And a technical one : creature from Churmog.
This make Bloodlings not demons, just creatures from outter world.
This question could just be a side question about "my view on the world", but it leads to a technical question too : as a druid, which creatures am I able to banish with the spell Banish Demon?
I've chosen to merge both definitions for demons, and then the Banish demon works on ALL creature fron an outer plan.
The reason why I made this choice is taken from the setting (always my compass to answer rules question) :
Druids defend laws of Nature. Then, their spells are not made toward creature form this, or this, plan. They are made to banish creature that don't belong to this plan. Druids made theirs spell from what they know, thir world, not what that want to fight (this plan, plus this plan, plu this plan, etc.). Then, insectoids abyssworms, etc could be banished.
But their is a difference of nature between an abyss worms, and a demon from churmog. One is a specie of a world, then breed and give birth, and colonize a part of the world : it's impossible to get rid of them, even with banish spell. The other, is a unique creature from churmog, in which nature seems to be truly different (immortality like Merigall, etc.), then you can get rid of one demon because of that (but others dwell outside...).
I'm not sure to be clear ^^' if not, don't hesitate to correct me or ask me to go further