There is. The MP5.How come there aren't any SMGs in the U.S. weapon list?
Can't find the MP5 in the players guide. Is it in there?
There was in the alpha, but it was removed for unknown reasons.There is. The MP5.How come there aren't any SMGs in the U.S. weapon list?
Can't find the MP5 in the players guide. Is it in there?
FWIW, it got replaced with the "Swedish K" in the Swedish weapons section. Why it didn't go to the Other Military Weapons section is probably due to the tyranny of formatting. What do you drop from that collection? There are at least 4 more guns that should be included. Is there an extra page that can be squeezed in? (Is the beta version even the extent of the expanded gear section?There was in the alpha, but it was removed for unknown reasons.There is. The MP5.
Can't find the MP5 in the players guide. Is it in there?
To be fair, the M231 as rated in Twilight: 2000 1st ed. was a very bad SMG, especially its range (base range 20, most SMGs base range 30, M16 base range 50). I'm not sure whether it was assumed to have the stock or not. The description in the Equipment List simply doesn't say. The illustration in the Small Arms Guide 1st ed. is hard to interpret but it may be showing a wire stock, perhaps jury-rigged.Depending on the reality we are using, the T:2k 1e timeframe still had Bradleys in the hypothetical and the M231 still had a stock and sights; they hadn't yet or had just been deleted.
FWIW, CAR-15 was simply a trade name for Colt Armalite Rifle that Colt used when they bought the design from Armalite. But, Band-Aid and Xerox.... The DoD definition of an SMG is a full auto small arm with a barrel less than 11 inches. The XM-177 sort of qualifies (at a barrel length of 11.5 inches) but most iterations of what are commonly termed CAR-15s and the M231 (with its 15.6 inch barrel) absolutely do not. I'm not sure who wrote the particular The Small Arms Guide you reference or what standard they are using to categorize small arms but including, at least, the M231 means they are not using that designation's standard. When it comes to "CAR-15s", there are so many possible configurations that the particular example may or may not be classifiable as a submachine gun by its governing standards. <shrug>The Small Arms Guide includes the following US-made SMGs:
CAR-15 (presumably this represents all 5.56mm Colt Commandos including the XM177 and GAU-5A)
CAR-15A1 (same as above but chambered for 9mm)
MAC-10
M3A1 "Grease Gun"
M231