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[Research] PA Material Sciences and Environmental Destruction

Sat 22 May 2021, 21:16

Revised: 5/23/21
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TLDR: What good PA online resources go into details about materials sciences, structure/items degradation, and how long human manufactured physical objects last in a PA environment?
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I did some research online on the subject above and learned different views about our planet with no humans on it, and the effects on human built structures/items in a Post-Apocalyptic setting. It got me thinking about what type of PA game I want to run in the MYZ RPG setting. Lots of Books, Comics, Movies, TV Series, PC, Console, Board, and RPG games take place in a Post-Apocalyptic world setting or environment, and I noticed a distinct pattern that repeats on a regular basis.
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For a lack of better term, I will call these the five “colors” of a Post-Apocalyptic Earth, broadly representing an environmental destruction theme (the scarcity of natural resources is a shared theme in all of them). I am trying to avoid anything with Zombies (a few exception), and I will give a few examples from across the different medias mentioned above (in the case of a setting having multiple “colors”, I will go with what I believe represent an iconic image).
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White (ice age): Frostpunk, Wasteland 3, Metro Exodus
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Blue (melting of polar icecaps and rising sea levels): Waterworld
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Brown (nuclear fires/radiation, unrelating sun, scorched wasteland): Mad Max, S.T.A.L.K.E.R, Fallout, Dark Sun
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Green (nature is reclaiming the planet, lush vegetation): I am Legend, The Postman, The Last of Us, Wasteland 2, Horizon Zero Dawn
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Gray (urban ruins, underground railroads/tunnel): The Book of Eli, Metro 2033, Twilight 2000
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Mutant Year Zero Timeline (estimate):
2019- The Red Plague devastates the world.
2020- World War III leads to all out nuclear war between all nuclear armed nations.
2042 - Elysium I stands ready.
2086 - War breaks out between the titan powers Elysium, Mimir and Noatun.
2093 - The Genesis Project is started by Elysium IV.
2134 - Elysium IV is destroyed by Mimir.
2168 - The last humans leave Noatuns underwater base Mechatron 7.
2241 - Mimir initiate the Eden project.
2246 - The Eden Project is closed due to a revolt among mutants and scientists.
2271 - Mutant Year Zero takes place.
2272 - Genlab Alpha takes place.
2273 - Mechatron takes place.
2274 - Elysium takes place.
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I will continue to do research on materials sciences set 251 years after the global nuclear fallout from WW3 in 2020. As of now, I am getting a strong overall “Green” vibe as to the background the campaign is set in, with the constant danger from the “Rot” being based on unshackled nano-technology instead of nuclear radiation. Any additional reference sources on Material & Environmental Sciences set about 200+ years after a post-nuclear war would be welcomed.
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References:
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Google Search “a world without humans”
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YouTube: What If All Humans Suddenly Disappeared From The Earth? (4.25 mins)
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YouTube: What Would Happen If Humans Suddenly Disappeared? (9.46 mins)
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Article: The Mechanics of Dystopian Settings
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Article: How realistic are the post-apocalyptic landscapes of video games?
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Article: HOW LONG IT TAKES FOR SOME EVERYDAY ITEMS TO DECOMPOSE
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Article: How long it takes 50 common items to decompose
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Article: Measuring biodegradability
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Book: The World Without Us
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Fria Ligans Forum: How many years have passed?
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Re: [Research] PA Material Sciences and Environmental Destruction

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Re: [Research] PA Material Sciences and Environmental Destruction

Sun 23 May 2021, 00:31

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Re: [Research] PA Material Sciences and Environmental Destruction

Sun 23 May 2021, 00:35

^ Quite a few things on the "Scrap Table" are suddenly going to be in very, very, short supply... ;)




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Re: [Research] PA Material Sciences and Environmental Destruction

Sun 23 May 2021, 15:02

Biodegradation and Photodegradation Rating estimates:
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Within a Year:
Train tickets: 2 weeks
Paper towels: 2–4 weeks
Paper waste: 2–6 weeks
Vegetables: 5 days–1 month
Apple cores: 2 months
Cardboard: 2 months
Cotton gloves: 3 months
Waxed milk cartons: 3 months
Thread: 3-4 months
Cotton: 1-5 months
Paper 2–5 months
Banana peels: Up to 6 months
Cotton T-shirts: 6 months
Orange peels: 6 months
Rubber bands: up to 1 year
Tree leaves 1 year
Rope: 3-14 months
Rope: 3–14 months
Wool socks: 1–5 years
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Within a Decade:
Canvas: 1 year
Latex gloves: several months to several years
Cigarette butts: 18 months to 10 years
Plywood: 1–3 years
Non-waxed cartons: 5 years
Milk packet (tetra) covers and drink packets: 5 years
Plastic-coated paper milk cartons 5 years
Cigarette: 1-12 years
Lumber: 10–15 years
Painted boards: 13 years
Iron: several years to decades
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Within a Century:
Shoes: 25–40 years
Leather shoes 25–40 years
Sanitary pads and tampons: 25-plus years
Nylon clothes: 30-40 years
Nylon fabric (jerseys, mesh shorts): 30–40 years
Nylon fabric 30–40 years
Nylon fishing nets: 40 years
Foamed plastic cups: 50 years
Leather: 50 years
Tin: 50 years
Rubber boot soles: 50–80 years
Tin cans 50–100 years
Batteries: 100 years
Wet wipes: 100 years
Synthetic fabric (lycra, polyester): 100-plus years
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Within 5 Centuries:
Aluminum cans: 80–200 years
Straws: 200 years
Plastic bottle caps: 10–500 years
Hairspray bottles: 200–500 years
Plastic bottles: 70-450 years
Plastic 6-pack holders: 450 years
Disposable diapers: 500 years
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Within a Millenia:
Monofilament fishing line: 600 years
Sanitary napkins & children diapers: 500-800 years
Plastic bags: 10–1,000 years
Ink cartridges: 450–1,000 years
Styrofoam cup 500 years to forever
Polyurethane seat cushions: 1,000 years
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Over a Millenia:
Glass: 1 million-plus years
Glass bottle; 1-2 million years
Tires: 2,000 years
Aluminum foil: never
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Re: [Research] PA Material Sciences and Environmental Destruction

Sun 23 May 2021, 15:12

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Update 5/23/21: added an additional three articles on the subject of organic and non-organic biodegradable decomposition rates.
 
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Re: [Research] PA Material Sciences and Environmental Destruction

Sun 23 May 2021, 17:05

I used to work as a Weighmaster at a landfill & recycling center so I know it’s true but it still amazes me that aluminum foil will never degrade. It can be shredded and/or reduced to a particulate state but unless it is actually melted down & recycled it will be there forever .... guess the cockroaches will be able to store their Twinkies in it!
 
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Re: [Research] PA Material Sciences and Environmental Destruction

Sun 23 May 2021, 17:06

I used to work as a Weighmaster at a landfill & recycling center so I know it’s true but it still amazes me that aluminum foil will never degrade. It can be shredded and/or reduced to a particulate state but unless it is actually melted down & recycled it will be there forever .... guess the cockroaches will be able to store their Twinkies in it!
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